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For Whom is the Holy Throne?

Sultan al-Awliya

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim al-Haqqani

8 February 2010 Lefke, Cyprus

(Mawlana Shaykh stands.) Dastoor yaa Sayyidee. Tabaarakta Rabbana wa t`aalayt, `alayka 'l-hamdu alaa ma qadayt, nastaghfiruka Allahumma wa natoobu `ilayk. Allahumma wa 'ghfirlana wa 'r-hamna wa tub `alayna wa 'hdina wa 'sqina, laa ilaaha illa Anta Subhaanak, la nuhsee thanaan `alayk anta kamaa athnayta `ala nafsik. Wa zid habeebika Sayyidina Muhammad, Sayyid al-awwaleen wa 'l-akhireen `izzan wa sharafan nooran wa surooran wa ridwaanan wa sultaana.

Lakal-hamd, yaa Rabbee! Anta j`altanaa min ummati habeebika 'l-Mustafa. Irham d`afana. wa laka 'l-hamd `ala maa qadayt wa laka 'sh-shukr min awwal ad-dunya ila akhiriha, yaa Rabbana. (Mawlana Shaykh sits.)

Wa thumma salaamu `alayka yaa Sayyidee, yaa Sultaanu 'l-Awliyaa, Sultaan haadhihi 'd-dunya, representative of the Seal of Prophets (s) on this world, our Grandshaykh, dastoor. We are asking for your support for all of us and we are in need of what you are giving to us. We know nothing, but you know what is necessary for us, and what we do in front of devils and evil and the representative of devils, Shaytan. O our Grandmaster, Sultanu 'l-Awliya! We don't know how we can save ourselves from falling into the traps of the most dangerous enemy! You are our protector and we are asking humbly for a heavenly support, not to fall into the traps of Shaytan. We are all weak servants and we may ask protection from our protector on this world. You must ask! Don't trust your knowledge or your physical power, your treasures, or your worshiping: all of them are useless. You must ask for heavenly support! Don't trust anything material that belongs to this world, it never gives you anything!

O People! As-salaamu `alaykum. I am looking that the majority of Mankind are running after dunya. Mostly, they are asking from material aspects a protection for themselves. Material aspects can't give you a protection, no! Protection for Mankind is coming only from heavens. Heavenly protection may protect you from every badness, from every evil and from every devil. This world is full of devils, from north to south and from east to west. If there are one-billion people from Mankind, there are seven times more of devils! They never leave anyone without running after them, to make them fall into their traps. They are using countless tricks everywhere. No doubt we are reaching the Last Days of our period, the period of Adam's children. We are just reaching the end of the period on this planet.

We shall be collected in the Divine Presence. Allah, Allah. What you are knowing as a very simple learning, that people are just going to be collected in the Divine Presence. SubhaanAllah! Glory to our Lord, Allah Almighty. Huuuuuu. Allah Almighty (swt), lahu `azheemu 'sh-shaan, endless greatness for Him. He is coming to the Plain of Judgment where, O Salafi `ulama, maa qawlakum. It is written through holy books that the Day of Resurrection will be carried on the `Arsh, the Holy Throne, and brought to the area of the Plain of Judgment.

What is maa qawlakum? What is your understanding of (Mawlana Shaykh stands.) ar-Rahman `ala al-`arsh istawa. (Mawlana Shaykh sits.) We are believing in the real belief, that Allah Almighty is la makaan wa la zamaan, no time and no space. What is this space, as we are saying? Do you think that it is makaan, a place on which something may be? Madad, yaa Sultanu 'l-Awliya. Anything in existence needs something on which it may be seated. What do you think about it? We are saying this whole universe is a space and in it is every galaxy. Nothing in existence can be without sitting on something; it is impossible, because there must be a place for the whole of Creation to be on, and also a time for it's beginning and another time for it's ending.

The Day of Resurrection, Judgment Day, subhaanAllah, our understanding about the Day of Resurrection is so weak! It is mentioned that angels will bring the Holy Throne to the Plain of Judgment, mashaa-Allah. For what? Now so many things are coming through my understanding. First of all, what do you think, Salafi `ulamas? Is Allah Almighty moving from one place to another place? How? Leave that. Then `Arshu 'r-Rahman, the Holy Throne, is moving also. From where is it coming? No one knows, only the Creator of `Arsh knows, bringing it to the Judgment Plain. What do you think about that, Salafi `ulamas? That Holy Throne is coming to the place of mahshar, the Plain of Judgment, and angels bringing `Arshu 'r-Rahman? So big.

Just reaching some secret knowledge to anbiyaa (prophets), and after them to the representatives of anbiyaa, something about the greatness of this world. They are saying seven levels below and seven levels above, seven earths and seven skies. Their bigness is going to be in front of Kursiyy (the Holy Chair), not `Arsh; Kursiyy is something else. Seven earths and seven heavens in front of Kursiyy, like a ring. What is a ring? What can be its bigness in front of these huge existences? Seven levels down, seven levels up, and in front of Holy Kursiyy it is going to be like a ring. Kursiyy is so big and different from `Arsh. It is difficult to understand what is between Kursiyy and `Arsh, the Holy Chair and Holy Throne. Then seeing its bigness or greatness, Kursiyy is saying, "I am so big!" And Allah Almighty is making Kursiyy like a candle that may be put in mosques, and putting it on Holy Throne. So big, you are never understanding! And this is only a definition for our understanding, like a candle, and no one is knowing the number of candles of the Holy Throne's bigness.

On the Day of Resurrection, coming only something that representing `Arsh, as `Arsh can't move from its place to come to Judgment Plain. Something that by the holy order of our Lord, Allah Almighty, angels are bringing a figure (representing) `Arsh, and it is also so big! Bringing it to the Judgment Place and then if we are saying that angels can carry the reality of the Holy Throne, it is impossible! But as you may say a miniature, bringing there. And then if the Creator of `Arsh, if you are thinking that Jesus coming and sitting on it, that is against the beliefs of real Islam; it can't be. But for whom was it brought to the Plain of Judgment?

I am asking Salafi `ulamas, what are they saying? Who is coming to sit on `Arsh, Holy Throne, on Day of Resurrection? You are coming to me and claiming that you know everything, PhD doctors, Salafi `ulama. Tell me who is going to sit on the Holy Throne? And it is declared that Judgment Plain should be in Damascus. That Holy Throne brought to Judgment Place in Shaam, Damascus. Yes, finished. What is your answer? Who is going to be on that Throne? What throne can carry Allah (swt)? Who will sit on the Holy Throne? This is a most important question for Muslims, Christians and Jews. You may ask Christians and see what they are saying, but they are not going to accept (our answer of) who is going to sit on the Holy Throne.

That is a very important point for Salafi `ulamas and they must understand, because Allah Almighty is never leaving something without understanding. And we may ask, the Holy Throne is for whom? If you say it is for Allah (swt), you are going to be mushrik, (idol worshipper); it can't be. So that Holy Throne is for whom? I am asking and looking for an answer from Salafi `ulamas because they are blaming us, Ahlu 'l-Sunnah wal-Jama`ah; they are not accepting what we are saying. On the majestic and most glorified Holy Throne, sitting on it by holy command from the Lord of Heavens, saying, (Mawlana Shaykh stands.) "My most beloved one, My representative, Muhammad (s)! Sit on it, because no one can carry it, but niyaabatan, on behalf of Me, Muhammad (s) must sit on that Holy Throne on the Day of Resurrection!" (Mawlana Shaykh sits.)

We are asking that from Muslim `ulamas, to know this. And we are asking if there are any signs from the Old Testament or New Testament about the Holy Throne, going to be someone there? Christians' judgment (will be) on their heads, and just going to be on zero point, and it is great 'ayb, biggest shame for them to say Jesus Christ (a) hung on the cross!

Moses (pbuh) mentioned through the Old Testament (revealed) to him, who is going to sit on that Divinely Throne. Moses (pbuh) was asking, "O my Lord, show me Yourself." And the Lord of Heavens was saying, "O Moses, you can't carry. But I am showing to you My real deputy and representative for whole Creation, I am going to show you, to look to his lights, noor." And Moses (pbuh) looking through a short time, an opening coming on a huge mountain and that mountain became dust. (And Moses realized, "This is) not from Him (Allah); from Him, whole Creation disappears.) Moses (pbuh) asking, "Show me Yourself," and the Lord of Heavens saying, "You can't see, but look to that mountain now that I am showing Myself on that huge mountain (Mt. Sinai)." But from that huge piece of time, (Allah's Manifestation) coming from Mt. Sinai as huge dust. What do you think, that Allah Almighty... is to be as His Attributes, or the attributes of creatures? No one (can carry). Therefore, the Lord of Heavens is asking to teach His prophets also, who is going to be on the Holy Throne on the Day of Judgment. Allah (swt) sent upon Moses one tajalli (divine manifestation) and that huge mountain became dust! How will Allah (swt) sit on that Throne? No! And on the Day of Resurrection, Allah Almighty (swt) is never moving His Existence. To move or not to move, that is an attribute of creatures. But Allah Almighty is never moving, never getting on from one type of being to another type of being; it can't be!

Therefore, we are coming and saying that Allah Almighty:

الرَّحْمَنُ عَلَى الْعَرْشِ اسْتَوَى

ar-Rahman `ala 'l-`arsh istawaa,

The Most Gracious is firmly established on the throne (of authority).(20:5)

(Throne) just coming in existence for showing His servants an understanding, and He means to say, "I am not that one who moves from this one to another one. I am not that one who sometimes coming from east or from west. No! I am Allah Almighty! I am the Lord of Heavens! But I am sending My representative, and he is the only one." What is his name? Sayyidina Muhammad (s)! (Mawlana Shaykh stands and sits.)

What is the proof of that point, which Allah Almighty is saying for the honor of the Seal of Prophets? Say! “O My beloved one:

عَسَى أَن يَبْعَثَكَ رَبُّكَ مَقَامًا مَّحْمُودًا

`asa an yaba`thak rabbuka maqaaman mahmoodan.

soon will thy Lord raise thee to a Station of Praise and Glory!(17:79)

Whomever is asking to reach that place, Maqamu 'l-Mahmood (Station of Prophet [s] under the Holy Throne), our minds can't understand where it is, on Earth or on `Arsh? Allah Almighty is calling, "Yaa Muhammad (s)! Come and sit on that Throne on behalf of Me and give your judgment for your nation and for whole of Creation."

O People! You must try to understand. I am a weak one, never understanding, but my master making me and holy ones making me to speak from my heart. And my heart is granting to my tongue such things that it are so important and gives honor to people, even if they have been granted a very small understanding.

May Allah forgive us. O Allah forgive us!

Allah Allah, Allah Allah, Allah Allah, `Azeez Allah.

Allah Allah, Allah Allah, Allah Allah, SubhaanAllah.

Allah Allah, Allah Allah, Allah Allah, `Azeez Allah.

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Bi hurmati 'l-Fatihah.

(51 minutes) Allah!

(571 thousand) Mashaa-Allah.

(Mawlana Shaykh speaks with Hajjah Naziha on phone.)

Mashaa-Allah, mashaa-Allah.